1 ) 淺談Coupling與Friends
Lockdown在家倆月有余,茶余飯后陸陸續(xù)續(xù)開始看老友記,昨日剛看完第六季。很多人提到Coupling,總是稱它為英國版Friends,我便想抽個空寫寫我對這兩部三男三女喜劇的看法。
背景提要:我是高中看完第一遍Coupling,仍舊封它為喜劇杰作,目前又有Blackadder和Peep show在我心中一較高下。一直耳聞老友記的大名,但一看到兩百多集有些望而卻步,外加我的笑點和美式幽默有些隔閡,最近在家隔離才得閑在網(wǎng)飛上看看。
Friends的一大優(yōu)勢是人物塑造飽滿、真摯,花很多篇幅來敘述他們人生的經(jīng)歷/童年,讓觀眾更容易對人物產(chǎn)生感情。里面的感情線也十分牽動觀眾的心,想必也是那么多人喜歡又奉為經(jīng)典的原因。但不得不說,人物刻畫太細會帶來的問題是會讓觀眾反感某個角色的某個方面,比如Monica在訂婚之夜責怪別人搶她的風頭或是Ross的優(yōu)柔寡斷。
形式上的創(chuàng)新確實是它成為經(jīng)典的原因之一。那集“假如我不曾改變...“而引發(fā)的另一個平行世界的他們,被日后很多情景喜劇模仿。
但不得不說,我看完六季老友記,記憶中并沒有幾段可以單拿出的“喜劇典范”。大部分的笑點是俏皮話、尷尬和誤會讓人產(chǎn)生的捧腹。也就是說,它并不是由編劇取勝,更多的是由表演、情境。
下面來說說Coupling,依舊十分遺憾看過的人不是那么多。
兩部劇的人物設置相似,有些瘋癲的Phebe/Jane,花心/有女人緣的Joey/Patrick,最后成功配對兩對情侶。稍有不同的是Coupling人物關系更有點復雜,引用Susan對Steve說的,"Your ex, my ex, your best friend, my best friend"很好地形容了另四個人與他們的關系。
Coupling的編劇無敵,很多段臺詞單獨拿出來都是神作,精雕細琢的考究。
很多集都引入一個新概念,比如微笑螺旋、沖不走的大便、out of control telephone pause、真理之蛇。不得不佩服魔法特能想到這么多有趣的點子,結尾又圓得妙極了。
開頭提到的,我是高中第一次看Coupling,多年之后重看,才發(fā)現(xiàn)自己錯過了無數(shù)內涵,比如灑了的雪碧象征秒射,拉不到底的抽屜暗示無窮的性欲。
對我個人來說,老友記有趣又下飯,Coupling是proper comedy。
貼幾個讓我覺得很厲害的片段,
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2 ) A Recommendation to Coupling
I was just having no clue how to begin with my recommendation of Coupling, when suddenly I got a question: how to say 打吊瓶? I checked with Genius Kane, who initiated the recommendation and she didn’t have the answer, but, she recoiled with a stunning question: “coupling里沒有?”
Haha! She has been meeting Coupling, the most classic drama I have ever seen for only 2 days! But she already has got such a response! What? A life encyclopaedia? Exactly! The first reason I recommend this drama to you, is its real-life focusing-faith. Every site you come across in this drama is as real as you can imagine- of course excluding those ancient and dreamy scenes out of dramatic needs.
But that is far from the main reason I want everybody interested in the life in UK to see it. The main reason, is its unique sense of humour! So unique that it is even a bit hard to appreciate it at first; so unique that it always goes to extreme to disclose the purest emotion of human being; so unique that you can easily condone any disinclination caused by those unusual sex jokes simply because you would already have been amusedly out of breath! It is truly so unique that you can take a real deep look at this wonderful people, with even a few smart choices of words.
The whole drama is a piece of art, and the creator Steven Moffat based the characters of Steve and Susan on himself and his wife (producer Sue Vertue), as he explains: "I have described the series as being 'my life as told by a drunk'. Like most writers, I write about what has happened to me as that involves the minimum amount of research. As it happens, Sue and I are married; so I imagined a scenario about what would have happened if we had met ten years earlier, and took it from there!"
I could not come up with any better descriptions of this TV series, but one thing is what at least I can assure you, this Steven, he is never exhausted in brooding weird, bizarre, peculiar, ludicrous but also tremendously entertaining and educational thoughts and ways of telling you so!
What is the definition of Classic? My version is something old but never out-of-dated, and whenever you review it, you can still gain something new and novel and cutting edge from it, like the Bible, like New Concept English~, like, “Apparently”, the COUPLING!
Rob Belcher's review has made a superb epitome of this drama, he wrote: "this show will speak to anyone who's ever dated, been in a relationship, or just noticed that men and women are different creatures."
I sincerely wish a perpetual life of Steven Moffat! I recommend this Sexy fairy tale weaved by 6 thirtysomething lovely actors to you, you would never feel losing your capital if you try to memorize every detail in it, trust me!
3 ) 衛(wèi)生間的意義~
摘抄一段"the girl with one heart"那集中,Steve對于衛(wèi)生間之于男人的重大意義所發(fā)表的重要演說:
We are men! Throughout history, we have always needed, in times of difficulty, to retreat to our caves. It so happens that in this modern age, our caves are fully plumbed. The toilet is, for us, the last bastion, the final refuge, the last few square feet of man-space left to us! Somewhere to sit, something to read, something to do, and who gives a damn about the smell? Because that, for us, is happiness. Because we are *men.* We are different. We have only one word for soap. We do not own candles. We have never seen anything of any value in a craft shop. We do not own magazines fill of pictures of celebrities with all their clothes *on*. When we have conversations, we actually take it in turns to talk! But we have not yet reached that level of earth-shattering boredom and inhuman despair that we would have a haircut *recreationally*. We don't know how to get excited about... really, *really* boring things, like ornaments, bath oil, the countryside, vases, small churches. I mean, we do not even know what, *what* in the name of God's *ass* is the purpose of pot-pourri! Looks like breakfast, smells like your auntie! Why do we need that? So please, in this strange and frightening world, allow us one last place to call our own. This toilet, this blessed pot, this... fortress of solitude. You girls, you may go to the bathroom in groups of two or more. Yet we do not pass comment. We do not make judgment. That is your choice. But we men will always walk the toilet mile... alone
4 ) S1 E4的一段很精彩的話
I’m a bloke. I’m supposed to like them. We’re born like that. We like naked women as asoon as we’re pulled out of one. Halfway down the birth canal, we’re already enjoying the view.
Look, it is the four pillars of the male heterosexual psyche. We like naked women, stockings, lesbians, and sean connery best as james bond, because that is what being a boy is. And if you don’t like it darling, join a film collective.
I want to spend the rest of my life with the woman at the end of the table. But that doesn’t stop me wanting to see several thousand more naked bottoms before I die. Because that’s what being a bloke is.
When man invented fire he didn’t say.”let’s cook!” he said,”great, now we can see naked bottoms in the dark.” As soon as caxton invented the printing press, we were using it to make pictures of naked bottoms. We’ve turned the internet into an enormous international database of naked bottoms.
看到這之后就真正愛上這部劇了。
>>現(xiàn)在重新看這部劇,發(fā)現(xiàn)果然像樓下某位同學所說是S1E4里出現(xiàn)的,同一集里還有另外兩位男生提到的對于lesbian porn的看法我也記下來了。
5 ) 當魔法特開始寫愛情
這真是一部很有滋味的劇 我看完神夏之后 曾對于irene和卷福的關系感到著迷 真是太值得玩味了 當時就覺得魔法特應該是一個很懂男女交往之道的人 而coupling正是一部把魔法特最私人的戀愛os放到了熒幕上的劇 也是唯一一部他寫的僅僅關于男歡女愛的劇 看完了就明白 這個男人啊 不僅僅懂推理和科幻 他也很懂愛情
魔法特是一個喜劇功力很深的編劇 不僅笑點內涵講究 每句臺詞幾乎沒有廢話 都是為了之后的反轉埋伏筆 一看都覺得寫的時候一定很費腦子 而且真的很好笑 我不管看多少遍都能笑的撕心裂肺
很多人都拿coupling和friends比較 其實是沒有可比性的 friends編織了一個關于愛情和友情的童話 而拋開喜劇成分 coupling的底色是帶著點灰色和悲涼的
看完第三遍我開始覺得這部劇 就跟它的名字一樣 是一個描述男男女女在情愛路上不斷求索配對 在經(jīng)歷了頭破血流失望心碎之后 終于找到了那么一個人 最終磨合并settle down的故事 而對于女孩子來說 這部劇大概是戳破我們少女幻想粉紅泡泡的一根銀針吧 雖然是喜劇 看完了卻覺得喜劇元素只是包裝無奈現(xiàn)實的糖衣
這部劇里 所有人的性格缺陷都很明顯 steve的懦弱 patrick的直男癌 jeff簡直是一個黃片腦 sally的不自信和焦慮 jane對于外界關注的無限需求 susan看上去是最理性完美的 但其實呢 她戀愛上最大的成功也只是通過各種技巧勾住了一個永遠猶豫躊躇 只是長得不錯的平庸男人而已
而且這里面六個人的愛情和友情 也是有硬傷的 sally和jane的暗暗較勁 susan和jane因為steve的齟齬 在愛情里steve和jeff都曾經(jīng)歷出軌前臨門一腳 他們六個人一直用小謊言和容忍(視而不見)來維系關系
但就算這樣 看到patrick跟sally告白 看到steve最后當爸爸 看到jane最后對于steve的真情流露 我還是感動了 大概對小硬傷視而不見 容忍那些現(xiàn)實里和幻想不符的小黑點 惜取眼前人 才是快樂生活的真諦吧
在刷了兩三遍之后才發(fā)現(xiàn)男主名字叫steve 而魔法特的名字是steven 所以我斗膽猜測 魔法特把自己的很多想法還有性格都投射到了steve身上 steve的那些借口 和為了掩飾自己緊張的長篇大論 大概都是魔法特曾有過的真實想法吧
這部劇的op “perhaps perhaps perhaps” 我很喜歡 和這部劇非常搭 男歡女愛 欲說還休 兜兜轉轉何時了 我們都想給自己愛的求索找個確切答案 但等來的可能只是一句“也許 也許 也許” 而已
6 ) S1E4,關于lesbian porn的美妙之處。
重新看coupling還是那么好笑,又記了兩段jeff和patrick對于lesbian porn的看法,大概能回答不少女生的困惑。
jeff:oh, wouldn't that be great.being a lesbian.all the advantages of being a man but with less embarrassing genitals. plus, every time you have sex, there's four breasts! two guest breasts, and two you can take home afterwards.oh it's bloody brilliant!
patrick:i like films with lesbians in them, 'cause it's nice to think that there are attracive women who can't find a boyfriend.
BTW,patrick在E4的發(fā)型真的是soooooo gay。
不想和friends做比較,兩部都很不錯。剛看完第一季,giggle loop笑的我眼淚都出來了,還有reservoir dogs內一幕,等等,我很喜歡susan&steve 第四季里我不喜歡那個新來的家伙 做作。就這么沒了,很可惜
那些段子真是太講究了
完全就不是英版老友記!走向根本不一樣,這其實就是探討兩性關系外加赤裸裸地在女性觀眾面前暴露男性心理的教學片!/ solo flight打飛機、elasticity法則、giggle loop、lesbian spank inferno、A woman's breasts are a journey Her feet are the destination太經(jīng)典 / Shadayim在希伯來語里是breast
我不喜歡六人行,但英國版的六人行真的很合我的胃口?。ㄆ鋵嵳f英國版六人行很牽強,這劇講的不是友情,而是男女對愛情的不同價值觀)。最初愛上的竟然是sock gap理論。關于穿襪子的裸男,一下子就被萌上了??碽ones的童鞋都懂的~
這種一點也不裝B的電視劇真好看
我又被Moffucked了!一談到LGBT,大腐男SM就激動了,就各種精辟了。這不是英版老友記,這談的不是友誼,而是男女對性對戀愛的不同觀點。其實,還是認為SM寫喜劇沒有RTD那么順暢讓人覺得酣暢淋漓。SM也真是地,寫個劇連自己和老婆的名字都不改改。噗……
Steve Moffat最擅長的果然是混淆觀眾的邏輯感(這時候多線敘述總是必要的),出奇意料地重組邏輯,開場的兩個情侶叨叨念就是一例,跟Jekll、Sherlock的某些橋段設計如出一折。前三季是00年到02年,然后是04年第四季終,03年跳出來的是US美版???怎樣的?!
第一季只看了前5集。friends & sex & humor 英版六人行,兩兩配對。一旦入戲了,就會非常喜歡。多少直白的對話啊,國人是不是含蓄地太過了?還是我太少見多怪呢^_^
除了力薦,我還能說些什么呢。
超高的電視劇本水平
厄。。。真的是英國版的六人行來著。這個H笑話開的喲~~不同之處在于,英國的開放程度遠遠在美國之上!
別把它和Friends比,因為完全沒可比性。如果說Doctor who是展現(xiàn)魔法特的編劇能力,Coupling炫的就是臺詞功底。真真讓你知道什么叫妙筆生花妙語連珠。最后還是要俗氣的嘆一句:魔法特神人也。
后兩集尤其搞笑,所以說莫法特你還是寫這種現(xiàn)實劇吧=v= 另外這里居然提到過SW,ST和DW神馬的,雖然沒幾句但是也很不容易了~ 性格的話最喜歡Susan~
三個男的都很帥!女的就太sorry啦 劇情么就是英版的老友記啦
當二人世界變成六人行,男人意淫女人,女人談論男人,各種葷段子就上來了。腐國人從來沒有節(jié)操,不怕政治錯誤,也樂于自我調侃,所以英國喜劇比美國好笑。Lesbian Spanking Inferno那一集真的太有才了,特別是Jane假裝自己是素食主義者學??叫,讓我半夜笑出眼淚。大俗當中有大智慧,性愛話題包裹的是男女對于情感的認知。段子設計可以當sitcom教科書范例了
所謂英版老友記,今天還真是讓我發(fā)現(xiàn)了六個主角之間的某種對應。但這自然并非重點。這劇延續(xù)英劇的精良,短小精悍,一旦習慣了這英式幽默的套路,真是每每被逗樂得不行。話說,英國淫民黃起來,智慧真是無窮大啊……大贊JEFF跟SALLY!
The ending is like a sudden death.Anyway, it's great fun watching it.
至今為止coupling是我看過所有情景喜劇里面成就最高最具藝術性的,同樣也是最好看的。作為一部偉大的情景喜劇幾乎完全不用典故,讓全世界人民都能輕易看懂還能保持相當高的內涵和幽默感,比老友記什么的好太多了
在眾多優(yōu)質的描述兩性之爭的情景喜劇之中,這部劇集也絕對算的上是名列前茅。四星半。PS:Susan 的性格是我喜歡的類型...
原來腐國人搞起性喜劇也會如此這般沒有下限啊,毫無節(jié)操的段子加上腐國的靡靡之音讓人瘋狂,腐國的這個才是正宗的《六人行》。O,Jeff,《生活大爆炸》的那位印度阿三相比之下成浮云了!★★★★★