Newsroom這部劇在美媒下還是有很大爭議的,這種爭議甚至不是對這部劇的for being liberal,更多來源于liberals for not doing enough。編劇Aaron Sorkin(如同你能從他的寫作中看到的那樣)常被描述成一個prick,一個smug,或一個chauvinist(比如一個記者曾寫一篇文章來敘述Sorkin對她本人采訪時候的condescension和不尊重,她說“In Sorkinville, the gods are men." 詳見“How to get under Aaron Sorkin’s skin (and also, how to high-five properly)” //www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/television/how-to-get-under-aaron-sorkins-skin-and-also-how-to-high-five-properly/article4363455/),并且因為他的寫作局限而被批評(說教性太強(qiáng)、自我陶醉...)
我感覺這些critic比豆瓣上目前看到的影評要成熟更多,并且也更加有效率、progressive。這篇影評來源于New Yorker的Emily Nussbaum (她本人在本劇第一季開始就發(fā)表過影評"Broken News"。見//www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/06/25/broken-news,或我的轉(zhuǎn)載//movie.douban.com/review/12970899/)。Nussbaum在2016年因為她在紐約客寫的影評獲得普利策獎。她個人肯定了第三季的一些進(jìn)步(比如她比較喜歡的Maggie & morality debate on the train),同時也特別分析批評了Sorkin對于Princeton女大學(xué)生 & rape的處理。
newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-newsroom-crazy-making-campus-rape-episode
As this review indicates, I wasn’t a fan of the first four episodes of Aaron Sorkin’s “The Newsroom.” In the two years since that blazing pan, however, I’ve calmed down enough to enjoy the show’s small pleasures, such as Olivia Munn and Chris Messina. When characters talk in that screwball Sorkin rhythm, it’s fun to listen to them. As manipulative as “The Newsroom” ’s politics can be, I mostly share them. There are days when an echo chamber suits me fine.
For the first two seasons, the show stayed loyal to its self-righteous formula, which many viewers found inspirational. Sorkin’s imaginary cable network, Atlantis Cable News, would report news stories from two years before, doing them better than CNN and Fox News and MSNBC did at the time. Characters who were right about things (Will McAvoy, Sloan Sabbith, the unbearable Jim Harper, the ridiculously named MacKenzie McHale) strove for truth and greatness, even when tempted to compromise. They bantered and flirted. And each week, they debated idiots who were wrong. These fools included Tea Partiers, gossip columnists, Occupy Wall Street protesters, and assorted nobodies enabled by digital culture—narcissists, bigots, and dumbasses. Sometimes, the debates included sharp exchanges, but mostly, because the deck was stacked, they left you with nothing much to think about.
Often, the designated idiot wouldn’t even get to explain her side of an argument: she’d get to make only fifteen per cent of a potential case, although occasionally, as with an Occupy Wall Street activist, the proportion climbed closer to fifty per cent. There were other maddening aspects of the show—a plot in which a woman who worked in fashion believed that she wasn’t good enough to date a cable news producer, the McAvoy/McHale romance, the Season 2 Africa-flashback episode. So, you know, I had complaints. But I tried to stay Zen and enjoy Munn and Messina. And, in all sincerity, I was happy when the third and final season débuted, because it was such an obvious step up. The early episodes were brisk and self-mocking. There was a nifty, endearingly ridiculous grandeur to the story arc about McAvoy going to jail to protect a source. Even more satisfying, the show's debates with idiots had undergone a sea change. In Season 3, the people who were wrong were allowed to be actively smart (like Kat Dennings’s role as a cynical heiress) and funny (as with B. J. Novak’s portrayal of a demonic tech tycoon who ended up taking over ACN). In certain scenes, they got to make seventy-five per cent of an argument, leading to fleet and comparatively complex debates.
In the single best scene of the whole series, the number jumped to a hundred per cent. Maggie (Allison Pill)—now rehabilitated from last season’s horrible post-Africa, bad-haircut plot—took an Amtrak train from Boston. In a plot cut-and-pasted from the headlines, she overheard an E.P.A. official's candid cell-phone conversation, sneakily took notes, and then confronted him with follow-up questions. Both sides made a solid case: she pointed out that he was in public and her obligation was to be a reporter, not a P.R. conduit. Also, had Maggie gone through “official” routes, he would have lied to her. He argued that by quoting an unguarded, personal discussion, she was making the world a less humane, more paranoid place. So when Maggie threw her notes away, it wasn’t as simple as, “He was right and she was wrong”—she’d made a real moral choice. Given the kind of show that “The Newsroom” is, there was plenty of wish-fulfillment—Maggie got the interview anyway, plus a date with an admiring ethicist—but those elements felt fairy-tale satisfying.
After the Amtrak scene, I turned downright mellow, even fond of the series, the way you might cherish an elderly uncle who is weird about women and technology, but still, you know, a fun guy. My guard went down. So when I watched Sunday’s infuriating episode, on screeners, I wasn’t prepared. What an emotional roller coaster! I will leave it to others to discuss the mystical jail-cell plot, the creepy reunion of Jim and Maggie, the fantasy that even the worst cable network would re-launch Gawker Stalker, and, more admirably, the way that B. J. Novak’s evil technologist character seems to have broken the fourth wall and stepped into reality to disrupt The New Republic. Someone should certainly write about Sorkin’s most clever pivot: he’s taken the accusations of sexism that are regularly levelled at his show and pointed the finger at Silicon Valley, in a brilliant “Think I’m bad? Well, look at this guy” technique.
Yet when it comes to disconcerting timeliness, no scene from this episode stands out like the one in which the executive producer Don Keefer pre-interviews a rape victim. When Sorkin wrote it, he could not have known that CBC radio host Jian Ghomeshi and, later, Bill Cosby would be accused of sexual assault by so many women, some anonymous, some named. He couldn’t have known that an article would be published in Rolling Stone about a gang rape at the University of Virginia or that this story would turn out, enragingly, to have been insufficiently vetted and fact-checked. The fallout from the magazine’s errors is ongoing: it’s not clear yet whether Jackie, the woman who told Rolling Stone that she was gang-raped, made the story up, told the truth but exaggerated, was so traumatized that her story shifted due to P.T.S.D., or what. The one thing that’s clear is that the reporting was horribly flawed, and that this mistake will cause lasting harm, both for people who care about the rights of victims and people who care about the rights of the accused. Key point: these aren’t two separate groups.
Anyway, there we are, with Don Keefer—one of the few truly appealing characters on the show and half of the show’s only romance worth rooting for, with Munn’s Sloan Sabbith—in a Princeton dorm room, interviewing a girl, Mary, who said she’d been raped. In a classic “Newsroom” setup, she wasn’t simply a victim denied justice. Instead, the woman was another of Sorkin’s endless stream of slippery digital femme fatales; she created a Web site where men could be accused, anonymously, of rape. The scene began with an odd, fraught moment: when Don turned up at her dorm room, notebook in hand, he hesitates to close the door, clearly worried that she might make a false accusation. But since this is Season 3, not 1 or 2, the Web site creator isn’t portrayed as a venal idiot, like the Queens-dwelling YouTube blackmailer on a previous episode, who wrote “Sex And The City” fan fiction and used Foursquare at the laundry. The Princeton woman got to make seventy-five per cent of her case, which, in a sense, only made the scene worse.
Before describing the scene between Keefer and the Princeton student, it’s important to note that the scene’s theme of sexual gossip about powerful men has been an obsession since this show began. For a while, Will McAvoy was tormented by a Page Six reporter who first got snubbedby him, then placed gossip items in revenge, thenslept with him, then blackmailed him. There was a similar plot about Anthony Weiner; just last week, Jim’s girlfriend Hallie sold him out in a post for the fictional Web site Carnivore. You’d have to consult Philip Roth’s “The Human Stain” to find a fictional narrative more consistently worried about scurrilous sexual gossip directed at prominent men. It’s a subject that replicates Sorkin’s own experiences, from “The Newsroom” on back to “The West Wing.”
The scene between Don and the student takes place in four segments, as Don reveals to her why he was there: not to talk her into going public, but to talk her out of it. His boss, under pressure to appeal to Millennials and go viral, insisted that the segment be done in the most explosive way possible—as a live debate between the student and Jeff, the guy she claims raped her. As Don and she talk, the woman tells him her story. She’d gone to a party, took drugs, threw up, passed out—and then two men had sex with her while she was unconscious. The next morning, she called “city police, campus police, and the D.A.’soffice.” She can name the guys; she knows where they live. She had a rape kit done. “That should be the easiest arrest they ever made,” she says. At every juncture, Don is sorrowful, rational, gentlemanly, concerned about not hurting her feelings, and reflexively condescending, in a tiptoeing, please-don’t-hurt-me way. Eventually, he tells her that Jeff, the accused rapist, has also been pre-interviewed: Jeff told Don that she wasn’t raped—in fact, she’d begged to have sex with two men.
Back and forth they go, discussing a wide range of issues—legal, moral, journalistic, etc. The dialogue conflates and freely combines these issues. First, there is the question of anonymous accusations, online or off. There is also the question of direct accusations, like the one this student made against a specific guy, in person, using her own name—in a police station and the D.A.’soffice, and then online. There is the question of how acquaintance rape is or isn’t prosecuted in the courts; there is the question of how it's dealt with, or covered up, within the university system; and there is a separate question about how journalists, online and on television, should cover these debates. But a larger question hovers in the background, the one hinted at when Don came in the door: Does he believe her?
When I first watched the scene, I was most unnerved by the way their talk mashed everything together, suggesting that there were only two sides to the question—a bizarrely distorted premise. It’s possible, for instance, to believe (as I do) that a Web site posting anonymous accusations is a dangerous idea and to also think it’s fine for a woman to describe her own rape in public, to protest an administration that buries her accusation, and to go on cable television to discuss these issues. It’s possible to oppose a “l(fā)ive debate” between a rape victim and her alleged rapist and to believe that rape survivors can be public advocates. There was also something perverse about the way the student was portrayed, simultaneously, as a sneaky anonymous online force and also an attention-seeker eager to go on live TV. (And, given the way that Rolling Stone’s Jackie is now being “doxxed” online, it’s grotesque that the episode has the Princeton woman praise Don for tracking her down, “old-school.”) The actress was solid, but the character behaved, as do pretty much all digital women on the show, with the logic of a dream figure, concocted of Sorkin’s fears and anxieties, not like an actual person.
“The kind of rape you’re talking about is difficult or impossible to prove,” Don tells her. It’s not a “kind of rape,” the woman responds sharply. She argues that her site isn’t about getting revenge, that it’s “a public service”: “Do not go on a date with these guys, do not go to a party with these guys.” Don cuts her off: "Do not give these guys a job, ever." He argues that she’s making it easier for men to be falsely accused, but the woman says that she's weighed that cost and decided that it’s more important that women be warned. “What am I wrong about?” she asks. “What am I wrong about?”
I’d love to see a show wrestle with these issues in a meaningful way, informed by fact and emotion. But eventually, the “Newsroom” episode gets to the core of what’s really going on, that shadow question, and this is when it implodes. The law is failing rape victims, says the student. “That may be true, but in fairness, the law wasn’t built to serve victims,” argues Don. “In fairness?” she says. “I know,” he says, sorrowful again, eyes all puppy-dog. “Do you believe me?” she asks him suddenly. “Of course I do," Don tells her. “Seriously,” she presses. He dodges the question: “I’m not here on a fact-finding mission.” She pushes him for a third time: “I’m just curious. Be really honest.”
Finally, he reveals his real agenda. He’s heard two stories: one from "a very credible woman” and the other from a sketchy guy with every reason to lie. And he’s obligated, Don tells her, to believe the sketchy guy’s story. She's stunned. “This isn’t a courtroom,” she points out, echoing the thoughts of any sane person. “You’re not legally obligated to presume innocence.” “I believe I’m morally obligated," Don says, in his sad-Don voice. WTF LOL OMFG, as they say on the Internet. Yes, that's correct: Don, the show’s voice of reason (and Sorkin, one presumes), argues that a person has a moral obligation to believe a man accused of rape over the woman who said he’d raped her, as long as he hasn't been found guilty of rape. This isn’t about testimony, or even an abstract stance meant to strengthen journalism. (“Personally, I believe you, but as a reporter, I need to regard your story with suspicion, just as I do Jeff’s.”) As an individual, talking to a rape survivor, Don says that on principle, he doesn’t believe her.
At this point, Don gets to make his win-the-argument speech about the dangers of trial by media, lack of due process, etc. “The law can acquit; the Internet never will. The Internet is used for vigilantism every day, but this is a whole new level, and if we go there, we’re truly fucked,” he says. He warns her that appearing on TV will hurt her: she’ll get “slut-shamed.” She begins to cry and tells him that, while he may fear false accusations, she’s scared of rape. “So you know what my site does? It scares you.” Her case will be covered like sports, he remarks with disgust. “I’m gonna win this time,” she replies with bravado. And so Don goes back to ACN and he lies, telling his producer Charlie that he couldn’t find the woman at all—and then Charlie throws a tantrum and dies of a heart attack, but that’s a matter for a different post.
Look, “The Newsroom” was never going to be my favorite series, but I didn’t expect it to make my head blow off, all over again, after all these years of peaceful hate-watching. Don’s right, of course: a public debate about an alleged rape would be a nightmare. Anonymous accusations are risky and sometimes women lie about rape (Hell, people lie about everything). But on a show dedicated to fantasy journalism, Sorkin’s stand-in doesn’t lobby for more incisive coverage of sexual violence or for a responsible way to tell graphic stories without getting off on the horrible details or for innovative investigations that could pressure a corrupt, ass-covering system to do better. Instead, he argues that the idealistic thing to do is not to believe her story. Don’s fighting for no coverage: he's so identified with falsely accused men and so focussed on his sorrowful, courtly discomfort that, mainly, he just wants the issue to go away. And Don is our hero! Sloan Sabbith, you in trouble, girl.
Clearly, I’ve succumbed to the Sorkin Curse once again: critique his TV shows and you’ll find you’ve turned into a Sorkin character yourself—fist-pounding, convinced that you know best, talking way too fast, and craving a stiff drink. But after such an awful week, this online recap might be reduced to: Trigger warning. The season finale runs next week and thank God for that. Like poor old Charlie Skinner, my heart can’t take it anymore.
Emily Nussbaum 本人在本劇第一季開始就已經(jīng)發(fā)了一篇比較critical的影評"Broken News"。見//www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/06/25/broken-news(我的轉(zhuǎn)載//movie.douban.com/review/12970899/)。
在當(dāng)時,對此,她同編輯室的New Yorker colleague David Denby也寫了一篇簡短的回應(yīng)as counterargument.
In Defense of Aaron Sorkin’s “The Newsroom” //www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/in-defense-of-aaron-sorkins-the-newsroom
I loved Emily Nussbaum’s negative review of Aaron Sorkin’s new HBO series, “The Newsroom,” which had its première last Sunday night, but I also enjoyed the show—certainly more than she did—and, afterwards, I felt a kind of moviegoer’s chagrin. Movie audiences get very little dialogue this snappy; they get very little dialogue at all. In movies we are starved for wit, for articulate anger, for extravagant hyperbole—all of which pours in lava flows during the turbulent course of “The Newsroom.” The ruling gods of movie screenwriting, at least in American movies, are terseness, elision, functional macho, and heartfelt, fumbled semi-articulateness. Some of the very young micro-budget filmmakers, trying for that old Cassavetes magic (which was never magical for me, but never mind) achieve a sludgy moodiness with minimal dialogue, or with improvisation—scenes that can be evocative and touching. But the young filmmakers wouldn’t dream of wit or rhetoric. It would seem fake to them. Thank heavens the swelling, angry, sarcastic, one-upping talk in “The Newsroom” is unafraid of embarrassing anyone.
“你知道堂吉訶德么?那個騎士,好吧其實(shí)他是個瘋子,他自以為自己在拯救世界,但大部分人都認(rèn)為他是傻蛋?!?/p>
一個完美的環(huán),看完立刻重返一季循環(huán)直到第三遍,可見對此劇方方面面的傾心??陀^地說劇集整體的優(yōu)點(diǎn)和缺點(diǎn)一樣明確而突出,但也正因如此,反而更凸顯出情感與價值觀上的契合。無論是否新聞人,對理想主義的忠貞以及理想遭遇現(xiàn)實(shí)的殘酷都令人無限敬佩加慨嘆,也甘愿成為劇終那個奔走相告的孩子。
Sorkin的理想主義還是不如他的自戀來得明顯。整劇里的女性角色靠Sloan和Leona挽回,自打把ex糗事寫進(jìn)自己劇本后,他劇里的女性角色就全是槽點(diǎn)。
理想主義到最後還是貫徹到了底 Aaron Sorkin還是沒有讓它走悲劇結(jié)局 Charlie用了三年時間將這群理想鬥士聚集起來變成了瘋子 他卻先行離去了 謝謝這群飛蛾撲火的浪漫理想主義者 Thank you Don Quixote. Good Evening.是時候重頭再看
不完美的完美
依舊好看到哭!燃到哭!愛每一個人!
艾倫·索金的編劇水準(zhǔn)依舊很高。能讓人看得既歡樂又傷感,既激昂又感動。每一個角色都是那么可愛而鮮活,讓人敬佩,讓人喜歡。即使有坑沒填,但閃回的結(jié)尾配上動聽的插曲,依舊讓人潸然淚下,依依不舍。再見了,新聞編輯室
向懂得見好就收的美劇致敬。
我們都在笑話Don Quixote,實(shí)際上我們都羨慕Don Quixote。
波士頓爆炸案。本集再次討論了一個問題,現(xiàn)在這個信息爆炸的時代,作為傳統(tǒng)的新聞應(yīng)該怎么運(yùn)行?特別是在這種突發(fā)事件面前,各種社交媒體點(diǎn)對點(diǎn)的速度要遠(yuǎn)遠(yuǎn)快于電視臺,但同時也導(dǎo)致真假信息的參雜,需要我們更有一雙慧眼來看清。。。。個人評價:A。
如果一個國家的影視工業(yè)和意識形態(tài)已經(jīng)強(qiáng)勢到一部美劇就可以讓每個國家的知識階層都患上精神家園的思鄉(xiāng)病,那當(dāng)它真的拍起統(tǒng)戰(zhàn)宣傳片時該有多可怕?或者說,正因為每部電影和劇集都已作為主旋律的聲音被世界各地?zé)o障礙接受,它又何須再費(fèi)力去拍什么統(tǒng)戰(zhàn)宣傳片呢?
這劇從開播就不招人待見,等到了第三季就只剩下索金一個人在戰(zhàn)斗。No matter how much I dis/agreed with him, I don't want to fight against him, or beside him. I just want to stand there watching and admiring. Because no one else can fight like Aaron Sorkin.
懸念迭起,酣暢淋漓。迷這劇不僅為唇槍舌戰(zhàn)的交鋒和妙語連珠的犀利,更重要的是敬畏它傳遞的勇氣、信仰和氣節(jié)。也許它理想化得不合時宜,信仰和節(jié)氣這東西可能我已經(jīng)沒有了,但看別人有,也是極大的滿足和欣慰。
這就是那種每句臺詞都深深回蕩在你心里的好劇,看得我都想含一片硝酸甘油。一個英雄倒下了,一個時代逝去了,一種理想失據(jù)了,一部神劇終結(jié)了,我也好像失戀了。艾倫.索金大人,請收下我的膝蓋兒。整部劇都像是他的夫子自道。而英雄們,什么時候才能從樹上走下來呢?
"他并不想詛咒沒有英雄的時代會如何墮落,但他希望所有人都看到,你們到底在失去什么"。最后一集突然很傷感,回首往昔,讓我們看到堂吉訶德是怎么死的,在這個時代里,精英主義是如何的淪為大眾的笑柄的,我們的英雄最后都已經(jīng)死了,好在這群理想主義者依舊戰(zhàn)斗著?!铩铩铩?/p>
雖然總被說理想主義,但每次還是看的熱血沸騰
岸邊觀望者的臉上寫滿畏懼和嘲諷,而真正活在洪流里的人們只顧日復(fù)一日孤勇搏擊。
作為臭屌絲卻在為身患精英癌晚期的索金傾倒,就像一個男的幻想著自己得了子宮癌一樣有戲劇效果,普遍上認(rèn)為,《堂吉訶德》是一部喜劇。
只有兩種辦法可以實(shí)現(xiàn)艾倫·索金的世界:1. 人人都是理想主義戰(zhàn)士 2.人人都吸毒過量,語速驚人腦袋不清白。
"He identified with Don Quixote, an old man with dementia, who thought he can save the world from an epidemic of incivility simply by acting like a knight. His religion was decency. And he spent lifetime fighting his enemies." This is not just for Charlie, this is for all of you.